Are you aware of the SEIU-UHW/NUHW situation?

There are major happenings in California around SEIU-UHW and NUHW. Do you know what is going on?

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Workers are rising up and demanding representation. Sounds a lot like forming a Union to me. I was at the SEIU convention last year and I have a lot of questions about the whole process myself. There may be legitimate reasons for a trusteeship, this may be a local power grab, or maybe Andy has decided he doesn't like anyone to disagree with him. The reality is that they (NUHW) appears to be the type of membership any Union would be proud to have. They are active, passionate, energetic, and focused. As a Union member myself I know how powerful the membership can be if it sticks together and how weak they can be if they are apathetic. NUHW is far from apathetic and if they leave SEIU we will be losing a powerful resource.

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It's not just a lot like forming a union, it is forming a union. NUHW has a very strong movement behind it.

If you follow what's been going on, the pattern that Andy Stern is following should be clear. I plan to say more on that later. Suffice it to say that SEIU International is so scared that they've had to stoop to suing their own trustees to try and stall NUHW.

Re: Are you aware of the SEIU-UHW/NUHW situation?

nuhw is worng

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Would you care to provide any details to back up your opinion?

Re: Are you aware of the SEIU-UHW/NUHW situation?

seiu is da union and nuhw is taking trying to take over and union bust seiu been there for like 50 years and and the local prez get caned he is trying to take the workers with him to start a new union with no members or backing so way risk lose a lot for one man

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Re: Are you aware of the SEIU-UHW/NUHW situation?

Where exactly do you work? Your information does not seem to be born out by the facts. At the very least, this is not an issue about "one man." This involved the removal of all UHW leadership, right down to the Stewards. The UHW membership overwhelmingly voted to for their previous leadership before the Local was put into trusteeship by Andy Stern. And, if you think about it logically, what union ever started with a membership?

You also express an issue with union busting. So tell us how you feel about the union busting efforts, led by Andy Stern, against our former ally, UNITE HERE!

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I find many, many things interesting/disturbing about the events taking place around SEIU-UHW, as well as how it is being spun. For now, I'll stick to the one argument that causes a lot of heartburn.

The argument goes something like this; Joe DiNicola single-handedly crafted a website and email chain to tar and feather the good reputation of the SEIU International headquarters by fabricating messages that implied a rift between the international and SEIU-UHW.

That's the biggest lie I've heard in a long time! I never believed it, and neither would anyone else who takes the time to investigate the facts for themselves. Luckily for SEIU, the vast majority of our members aren't likely to research these things, and who could blame them? Time is precious, life is short, etc.

Whenever I hear statements like the argument ("It's Joe's Fault!") above, I wonder if the person making them is perhaps misinformed by an inaccurate rumor mill, or if they possibly have a stake in SEIU continually looking like The Hero. There's nothing wrong with Being A Hero, but it behooves the institution that wants that rep to, you know, work toward it. Walk the walk instead of just talking the talk, as it were.

There are many more details in the trials and tribulations that SEIU-UHW is undergoing, but for now, it looks like the federal agency which has the final say in these things, the National Labor Relations board, has ruled in favor of the SEIU international headquarters. I sincerely hope the ramifications do not make life any more 'interesting' for organized labor than it already is. :-(

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it is not right for seiu ot do it or nuhw it will not help the union movment and if da stewards is for nuhw they are not for seiu so way will seiu let them stay if they are not going to work for seiu and there members way will seiu keep them on ?

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So I hear you saying that it's completely OK to remove the people doing the day-to-day work of representing the membership. If anyone has an opinion that doesn't agree with the leadership, then they should be removed. Is that correct?

It sure sounds a lot like what our employers' management tries to do to the members every day.  Which would then mean that SEIU is really no longer a Union, representing labor. Instead they're just another bunch of "management" that the Union formed  to help protect us from in the first place. And management is not the friend of labor.

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Re: Are you aware of the SEIU-UHW/NUHW situation?

Thank you for your comments. Unfortunately, what you describe sounds a lot like the activities of SEIU, not NUHW. There are a few things I would highly recommend here:

  1. Foul language is against the terms of service you agreed to by posting (especially posting anonymously). Please refrain from such behavior in the future.
  2. Can you provide any proof of the claims you make? We'd love to see both sides of the story. Unfortunately, you've provided us with a lot of SEIU propoganda. NUHW has their own, but at least there are some verifiable outside sources of information as well.
  3. If the answer to #2 is, "yes," please post a follow-up and give us more information.

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